Why the Marvel Cinematic Universe feels empty

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  • What makes a fictional universe good? In this requested episode of Overrated, Vox’s Phil Edwards explores the past and present of fictional universes to try to figure it out.
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    Fictional universes and crossovers have been around long before the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The Green Hornet radio show had a crossover with the Lone Ranger that kicked off the trend. In comics, the Marvel Universe started long before Stan Lee was at the helm.

    But these crossovers have a problem: They can privilege business relationships ahead of storytelling immersion and really interesting universes. As the Tommy Westphall Universe shows, crossovers often become a map of business decisions rather than of integrated fictional stories, and that leads to worse stories.

    This problem plagues the MCU as well. When Marvel engineers crossovers, they aren’t thinking about a universe transformed by superheroes - they just want more quips, explosions, and cash. Or at least that’s Edwards’s argument - do you think the MCU works?
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تعليقات • 22 519

  • Vox
    Vox  3 أشهر قبل +893

    You know that one font every comic book uses? Phil Edwards explains where it came from, and how it became so enduring: bit.ly/2EoOE6a

    • Jean-Nicolas Bourdon
      Jean-Nicolas Bourdon 2 أيام قبل

      Melvin T I laughed way harder than I should have. Props

    • Devansh Jangid
      Devansh Jangid 7 أيام قبل +1

      +Sasuke They're trying to distract us! 🤣😂 That's such a cheap tactic

    • Intergalactic Studios
      Intergalactic Studios 10 أيام قبل

      arclip.net/video/niT5wCh5v7U/فيديو.html this is why i clicked dislike

    • Tizian K.
      Tizian K. 11 أيام قبل

      Vox shut up and make actual points and not retarded clickbait.

    • Iman Ansori
      Iman Ansori 15 أيام قبل

      Vox need clear their minds.. MCU is so good.. It's not just about crossover, it's about an idea to bring together superhero to give us philosophy, inheritance, inspiration, motivation, extraordinary story architecture, and many other great things.

  • Akshay Bhardwaj
    Akshay Bhardwaj أيام قبل

    Seriously Xmen > Marvel..
    What bullshit video is this..

  • joseph liao
    joseph liao أيام قبل

    ?? Wtf is wrong with you

  • sabledawn
    sabledawn 2 أيام قبل

    You're missing the entire point. Marvel Comics Universe is simply a brand. It is not, nor is it meant to be an actual universe in the world-building sense. The reason for that is that these are pop-culture blockbusters, not science fiction thought bubbles. If you want that, then go to a bookstore and pick up a good science fiction novel. I've written a few myself you can check out. Marvel is superhero fluff. All that is required is for the good guys to kick the bad guys' butts, and make us laugh along the way. With that in mind, Marvel does a stupendous job.
    If you want what the video implies is good, check out The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress. It'll make you think while boring the taste out of your mouth.

  • sabledawn
    sabledawn 2 أيام قبل

    That odd yellow background makes the presenter's eyes look yellow. I keep wondering when he caught hepatitis.

  • LightninLarry
    LightninLarry 2 أيام قبل

    This video made me sick. These people had no clue what they were talking about

  • Beard Up Beer Down
    Beard Up Beer Down 2 أيام قبل

    Do some research.

  • Tom Ripsin
    Tom Ripsin 2 أيام قبل

    2:30 Superman and Batman were in the Justice Society of America together in the 40's. They obviously met before the 1960's.

  • Luka Talks Life
    Luka Talks Life 2 أيام قبل

    In our universe they would work together it's world-ending potential

  • Gojimain 2014
    Gojimain 2014 3 أيام قبل

    The entire video contradicts itself every second

  • Dr. Paparoni
    Dr. Paparoni 3 أيام قبل

    Only marvel movie that i liked was guardians of the galaxy vol.1

  • Game Player
    Game Player 3 أيام قبل

    What's the final answer? He didn't even talk about marvel for half the video. Seriously x-men universe? It was just x-men stories with some wolverine centric films. He's always saying that MCU is a business. Every movie is a business. MCU connects all the stories in the same universe with diverse story arcs which everyone enjoys except for some retards like you

  • McClellan Clark
    McClellan Clark 3 أيام قبل

    Vox feels empty

  • Brad Norris
    Brad Norris 4 أيام قبل

    Give me back my 9 minutes

  • Huey H
    Huey H 4 أيام قبل

    What just happened!!
    I hope this guy got fired and chased out of his home with pitchforks

  • Eleanor Maya
    Eleanor Maya 5 أيام قبل

    I rarely slap link videos, but you went past the line of no return.
    arclip.net/video/aQ27iS1mkuo/فيديو.html
    You're welcome. :)

  • Xochitpilli
    Xochitpilli 5 أيام قبل

    Vox wtf is this? LMAO

  • Chris 12
    Chris 12 6 أيام قبل +1

    6:49 literally everybody would care

  • TV Backup
    TV Backup 6 أيام قبل +2

    Damn you're trash. You might've talked more nonsense than Trump on twitter.

  • Rorschach Daws
    Rorschach Daws 6 أيام قبل +1

    Mcu movies sucks

  • MattheJ1
    MattheJ1 7 أيام قبل +1

    Hey, anyone want to buy a Vox sandwich? Here's how it works: you pay for a sandwich, Vox spends 9 minutes talking about how good their sandwiches are, and then you don't get a sandwich.

  • Dimitris Polimeros
    Dimitris Polimeros 7 أيام قبل +1

    Listen (im referring to anyone who reads the comments or MCU sceptics) if you want to learn why the MCU is not as great as everyone says it is, just watch E;R's review of Deadpool part 1 and 2. He analyses the movie itself but he also expresses his opinion on the entire MCU (it's world-building, power level variability etc.). I personally don't agree with some of his arguments, but it's still much better than Vox's video.

  • Shock Puls
    Shock Puls 7 أيام قبل +1

    Who told you this was a good idea?

  • Jason W
    Jason W 8 أيام قبل +2

    Did this guy even watch any of the movies? It sounds like he’s just heard all of the complaints of the MCU and put them into a poorly researched video.

  • Iron Flash711
    Iron Flash711 8 أيام قبل

    Its called same marvel universe they all share a universe and it's not the disney cinmatic universe so no star wars

  • ewan hennessy
    ewan hennessy 8 أيام قبل

    Finally, someone who gets it.

  • Rory Wicks
    Rory Wicks 8 أيام قبل +1

    VOX, this is one of the poorest attempts at making really good points on how the MCU can improve. And some if not most of the criticisms made by Phil are that "empty". Please go back to the drawing board for this one.

  • Jensen Raylight
    Jensen Raylight 8 أيام قبل +1

    nah, you can't convince me to hate marvel just with "why MCU feels empty",
    and i still wondering, which part in the video that explains the emptiness of MCU
    i don't think MCU are overrated, they deserve it
    it's their hard work, and people get entertained with it

  • Super_ Sanne
    Super_ Sanne 9 أيام قبل +2

    Lol i just use these video's as background noise 😂

  • 09hk98
    09hk98 9 أيام قبل +1

    Where are all the DC fans?

  • Lionsgate Black Label
    Lionsgate Black Label 9 أيام قبل +2

    Report this for "Hateful and Abusive Content". CALLING ALL MARVEL FANS!!

  • FutureScarletSpider
    FutureScarletSpider 9 أيام قبل +1

    Likes are Dc fans

  • Erlendor
    Erlendor 9 أيام قبل +1

    When I hear Tommy Westfall, I, for some reason, think Tommy Weasau. I almost expect an "Oh hi Mark!" to appear in the video

  • NoAudioBro
    NoAudioBro 10 أيام قبل +1

    The only mistake was this video

  • Noah Pfister
    Noah Pfister 10 أيام قبل +1

    Hey, Vox, how bout you make a movie of your own? Then we’ll pointlessly criticize it for 10 minutes.

  • Riley Griffin
    Riley Griffin 10 أيام قبل +1

    Update: I had to stop watching when he said no one would care about a Star Wars avengers crossover👋🏻👋🏻

  • Riley Griffin
    Riley Griffin 10 أيام قبل +1

    What kinda crack is this channel on😂😂 “if you added aquaman to an avengers poster or Hawkeye to a justice league poster no one would care”💀💀

  • Vincent Karnik
    Vincent Karnik 10 أيام قبل +1

    Everyone go watch Captain Midnight’s video on this it actually tells the truth about the MCU not that it’s empty but how it’s not and how Vox are retarded and shouldn’t ever take a shot at the mcu ever again

  • Jem Midgley
    Jem Midgley 10 أيام قبل +1

    Much like your writers forgot to do their research, I think your editors forgot to colour grade the footage.

  • Han Shot First
    Han Shot First 11 أيام قبل +1

    "Wroonngggoooo"
    -The Grinch

  • Han Shot First
    Han Shot First 11 أيام قبل +1

    "Not only are you wrong, but you're stupid, and you're ugly, just like ya mum."
    -The cat in the hat

  • Nick Reineck
    Nick Reineck 11 أيام قبل +1

    This video sounds like it was made by people who only watched the trailers to some of the MCU movies. And even then, not all the way through.
    Not liking the MCU is an opinion you're allowed to have, it's ok. Flaunting your massive superiority complex with one of the worst researched video "essays" I've ever seen, is not.

  • Bastardson OfJefferson
    Bastardson OfJefferson 11 أيام قبل +1

    Vox video essays are overrated. Release the NerdWriter!

  • Ben Phillips
    Ben Phillips 12 أيام قبل +1

    I assume you're familiar with it, yes? Yeah, this ain't that, chief.

  • MrVideoKid: Extra Channel
    MrVideoKid: Extra Channel 12 أيام قبل +1

    Why this Vox Video feels empty

  • Lord Snoke
    Lord Snoke 12 أيام قبل +2

    Borring a few minutes of nothing and then he starts to talk about the topic. I only came here from sin sin video. And the MCU is great and thanos is awesome dislike.

  • SuccessNet
    SuccessNet 13 أيام قبل +1

    This just gave me stage 5 cancer. Thanks VOX.

  • Corine Volkerink
    Corine Volkerink 13 أيام قبل +1

    This video is a mess lol. what's ur point?

  • Julio Lenin
    Julio Lenin 13 أيام قبل +1

    Well, with all your amazing content there should be at least a sloppy one that clearly doesn't know what it's talking about.